Why the Collie is Better than the Kishu Ken as a Pet

Last Updated: May 01, 2022

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Collie Versus Kishu Ken: Introduction

Are you thinking of getting a new pet dog, and you have narrowed down your choices to the Collie and the Kishu Ken? Well, you have come to the right place. Because in this article, we will provide you with a detailed comparison of these two dog breeds to help you decide which of the Collie and the Kishu Ken better suits you.

We will provide you a detailed discussion and comparison of dog attributes such as intelligence, price, general health, friendliness, etc, for both the Collie and the Kishu Ken.

Furthermore, we will let you know which one of the Collie and the Kishu Ken is better suited for new dog owners, for owners with kids, for owners that live in apartments, for owners with dog allergies, etc.

Importantly, we did some analysis and calculation and we obtained a number that we call the Better-Pet Score™ for both the Collie and for the Kishu Ken. The dog breed with the higher Better-Pet score is the `better` pet. We hope that these Better-Pet Scores will provide you with more insight into deciding which pet to get between the Collie and the Kishu Ken.

Our only goal here is to help you make a well-thought-out decision on your next long-term companion, be it the Collie or the Kishu Ken.

Note that the Collie breed comes in two varieties based on coat texture. There is the smooth collie and the rough collie. Read our article on rough collie versus smooth collie.

Furthermore, the border collie dog breed is very different from the collie dog breed. Learn about the differences between these two dog breeds in our border collie versus collie article.

See this article that compares the Border Collie to the Kishu Ken.

Finally, just like the collie, the border collie also comes in two varieties. There is the rough border collie and the smooth border collie. To learn about the differences and similarities between them, check out our article on rough-coat border collie versus smooth-coat border collie.

Collie versus Kishu Ken: Overview

Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken are similar in size. The Collie and the Kishu Ken are both medium-sized dogs.

Furthermore, the Collie belongs to the Herding Dogs group. Herding Dogs were bred for moving livestock, including sheep, cattle, and even reindeer. Herding dogs work closely with their human shepherds, and their natural intelligence and responsiveness make them highly trainable. They have high levels of energy, which needs to be channeled properly to prevent destructive behavior. Herding breeds are protective of their people and property and make excellent watchdogs. Their intelligence, agility, and activity level make them well suited to dog sports.

On the other hand, the Kishu Ken belongs to the Working Dogs group. Working Dogs were developed to assist humans in some capacity – including pulling sleds and carts, guarding flocks, guarding homes, and protecting their families. Breeds in the Working Group are known for their imposing stature, strength, intelligence, and fearless. Because of their size and strength, working dogs require a structured home life and firm, fair, consistent training by someone who can provide leadership without resorting to anger or physical force.

Collie versus Kishu Ken: Comparison Table

The table below compares the Collie to the Kishu Ken based on different important factors such as Price, Health, Kid-friendliness, etc.

When a dog breed scores higher for a factor than the other dog breed, the box of the breed that scores higher is shaded green and the box of the breed that scores lower is shaded red. When there is no difference between the breeds for a particular factor then the box is shaded gray for both pets. Also, when the factor is not important in picking a pet, or when the factor cannot be compared between two pets, the box for the factor is shaded gray for both pets

Most of the factors in the table for each dog breed are ranked on a scale of 1 to 5. “1” means “worst”, and “5” means “best”.

However, some factors such as “Price”, “Average Lifespan”, etc. cannot be on a scale of 1 to 5, so they are not on a scale of 1 to 5 in the comparison table.

Later in this article, we will further explain each factor as it applies to the Collie and the Kishu Ken

Factor Collie Kishu Ken
Does NOT Drool 5/5 4/5
Tendency NOT to Wander 5/5 4/5
Life Span 10 to 14 years 9 to 13 years
Tolerates Being Alone 2/5 3/5
Easy To Groom 2/5 3/5
Calmness/ Low Vigor 4/5 3/5
Height 22 to 26 inches all at the shoulder 17 to 22 inches
Adapts Well To Apartment Living 3/5 3/5
Tolerates Hot Weather 3/5 3/5
General Health 3/5 4/5
Potential NOT to Gain Weight 3/5 3/5
Does NOT chew on things 3/5 4/5
NOT Rambunctious 3/5 3/5
Minimal Exercise Needs 3/5 2/5
Good For Novice Owners 4/5 2/5
Tolerates Cold Weather 4/5 5/5
Dog Friendly 4/5 2/5
Friendly Toward Strangers 4/5 2/5
Easy To Train 4/5 4/5
Intelligence 4/5 5/5
Low Prey Drive 2/5 2/5
Does NOT Bark or Howl 2/5 5/5
Potential For Playfulness 4/5 2/5
Easygoing 1/5 3/5
Affectionate With Family 5/5 3/5
Kid-Friendly 5/5 3/5
Does NOT Shed 1/5 2/5
Weight 50 to 70 pounds 30 to 60 pounds
Average Lifespan 12.0 years 11.0 years
Average Price $1480 No Data
Price Range $1000 – $1800 No Data
Common Health Problems and Recommended Health Tests
  • Clear By Parentage
  • Dermatomyositis
  • Multiple Drug Sensitivity
  • Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA) DNA Test
  • No Data

    *Data from AKC.org (The American Kennel Club),dogtime.com, OFA.org (The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals), petcalculator.com, wikipedia.org, ATTS.org (The American Temperament Test Society)

    Next, we added the scores of the factors that can be added together for the Collie in the table (that is, `Ease of Grooming` score + `General Health` score + `Calmness` score + …etc) and we compared it to the corresponding total score for the Kishu Ken. We call these total scores the Better-Pet Scores, as we mentioned earlier. We called this score the Better-Pet score because the better dog breed will have a higher score. This is because the pet will the higher score will have minimal needs and be easier to have as a pet.

    The Better-Pet score for the Collie is 83 out of 125 while the Better-Pet score for the Kishu Ken is 79 out of 125.

    Based on their Better-Pet scores, the Collie is a better pet than the Kishu Ken. So, you should get a Collie!

    The Most Remarkable Differences Between the Collie and the Kishu Ken

    Below is a list of where the Collie and the Kishu Ken are most different:

  • Collies are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl. However, Kishu Kens are not very vocal. They have very low tendency to bark and howl.
  • The Similarities Between the Collie and the Kishu Ken

    The Collie and the Kishu Ken are very similar in certain aspects. Below is the list of where the Collie and the Kishu Ken are most similar:

  • Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken do not have the tendency to drool.
  • Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them.
  • Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken do not like to be left alone.
  • Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken require a lot of grooming and are not very easy to groom.
  • Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken do the things they do with very low vigor. They are not forceful.
  • Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken can tolerate cold weather.
  • Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken are very easy to train.
  • Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken are highly intelligent.
  • Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken have a high prey drive. They do not get along well with other pets.
  • Both the Collie and the Kishu Ken shed. They are not recommended for people with dog allergies.
  • Size Comparison of the Collie versus Kishu Ken

    Now, let us discuss the difference in size between the Collie and the Kishu Ken.

    The Collie weighs 50 to 70 pounds when fully grown. The Collie is 22 to 26 inches all at the shoulder when fully grown.

    On the other hand, the Kishu Ken weighs 30 to 60 pounds when fully grown. The Kishu Ken is 17 to 22 inches when fully grown.

    Size of Collie versus Size of Kishu Ken

    Lifespan of Collie versus Kishu Ken

    The lifespan of the Collie is between 10 to 14 years. The average lifespan of the Collie is 12.0 years.

    The lifespan of the Kishu Ken is between 9 to 13 years. The average lifespan of the Kishu Ken is 11.0 years.

    The Collie live longer than the Kishu Ken.

    Tolerates Being Alone: Collie versus Kishu Ken

    Collies do not like to be left alone.

    Kishu Kens can be left alone only for a short time.

    Do Collies shed more than Kishu Kens?

    Collies shed. They are not recommended for people with dog allergies.

    Kishu Kens shed. They are not recommended for people with dog allergies.

    Which is Easier to Groom, the Collie or the Kishu Ken?

    Collies require a lot of grooming and they are not very easy to groom.

    Kishu Kens are moderately easy to groom.

    Which Dog Breed is more Dog-Friendly, the Collie or the Kishu Ken?

    Collies get along very well with other dogs.

    Kishu Kens do not get along well with other dogs.

    Are Collies good family dogs? What about Kishu Kens?

    Collies are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    Kishu Kens are good family dogs. They are affectionate with family.

    Is the Collie Easier to Train than the Kishu Ken?

    Collies are very easy to train.

    Kishu Kens are very easy to train.

    Which one drools more, the Collie or the Kishu Ken

    Collies do have a very low tendency to drool.

    Kishu Kens do have a very low tendency to drool.

    How Kid-friendly are Collies and Kishu Kens?

    Collies get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.

    Kishu Kens get along fairly well with kids. They are quite kid-friendly.

    Does the Collie Have a Higher Prey Drive than the Kishu Ken?

    Collies have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.

    Kishu Kens have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.

    Do Collies Bark and Howl? What about Kishu Kens?

    Collies are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.

    Kishu Kens are not very vocal. They do not tend to bark and howl.

    Can Collies Tolerate Cold Weather? And can Kishu Kens Tolerate Cold Weather?

    Collies can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Kishu Kens can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Wanderlust Potential: Collie vs. Kishu Ken

    Collies do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them.

    Kishu Kens do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them.

    Can Collies Tolerate Hot Weather? Can Kishu Kens Tolerate Hot Weather?

    Collies can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.

    Kishu Kens can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.

    Is the Collie Better for Apartment Owners than the Kishu Ken?

    Collies adapt moderately well to apartment living.

    Kishu Kens adapt moderately well to apartment living.

    Which is Better for New Dog Owners, the Collie or the Kishu Ken?

    Collies are very good for new dog owners.

    Kishu Kens are not the best dogs for new dog owners.

    Collie Versus Other Dog Breeds

    You may also be interested in how the Collie compares to other breeds aside from the Kishu Ken. So, see below the links to the comparison of the Collie to other breeds:

    Collie versus Shih Tzu     Collie versus Bearded Collie     Collie versus German Pinscher     Collie versus Welsh Springer Spaniel     Collie versus Miniature Pinscher     Collie versus Samoyed     Collie versus Welsh Terrier     Collie versus Papipoo     Collie versus German Shorthaired Pointer     Collie versus American Pit Bull Terrier     Collie versus Hovawart     Collie versus Affenhuahua     Collie versus Basenji     Collie versus Bichon Frise     Collie versus Peek A Poo     Collie versus Doberman Pinscher     Collie versus Shichon     

    Conclusion: Collie versus Kishu Ken. Which One is a Better Pet?

    In summary, there is nothing like a better dog breed or a worse dog breed. The important question to ask is which dog breed better matches your interests and lifestyle. We hope our discussion above will help you in deciding which dog breed between the Collie and the Kishu Ken better suits you and your family.