Why you Should Get the Collie Instead of the Saint Berdoodle.

Last Updated: May 01, 2022

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Collie Versus Saint Berdoodle: Introduction

Are you thinking of getting a new pet dog, and you have narrowed down your choices to the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle? Well, you have come to the right place. Because in this article, we will provide you with a detailed comparison of these two dog breeds to help you decide which of the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle better suits you.

We will provide you a detailed discussion and comparison of dog attributes such as intelligence, price, general health, friendliness, etc, for both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle.

Furthermore, we will let you know which one of the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle is better suited for new dog owners, for owners with kids, for owners that live in apartments, for owners with dog allergies, etc.

Importantly, we did some analysis and calculation and we obtained a number that we call the Better-Pet Score™ for both the Collie and for the Saint Berdoodle. The dog breed with the higher Better-Pet score is the `better` pet. We hope that these Better-Pet Scores will provide you with more insight into deciding which pet to get between the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle.

Our only goal here is to help you make a well-thought-out decision on your next long-term companion, be it the Collie or the Saint Berdoodle.

Note that the Collie breed comes in two varieties based on coat texture. There is the smooth collie and the rough collie. Read our article on rough collie versus smooth collie.

Furthermore, the border collie dog breed is very different from the collie dog breed. Learn about the differences between these two dog breeds in our border collie versus collie article.

See this article that compares the Border Collie to the Saint Berdoodle.

Finally, just like the collie, the border collie also comes in two varieties. There is the rough border collie and the smooth border collie. To learn about the differences and similarities between them, check out our article on rough-coat border collie versus smooth-coat border collie.

Collie versus Saint Berdoodle: Overview

A very important difference between the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle is the size difference between the two dog breeds. The Collie is a medium-sized dog while the Saint Berdoodle is a large-sized dog.

Furthermore, the Collie belongs to the Herding Dogs group. Herding Dogs were bred for moving livestock, including sheep, cattle, and even reindeer. Herding dogs work closely with their human shepherds, and their natural intelligence and responsiveness make them highly trainable. They have high levels of energy, which needs to be channeled properly to prevent destructive behavior. Herding breeds are protective of their people and property and make excellent watchdogs. Their intelligence, agility, and activity level make them well suited to dog sports.

On the other hand, the Saint Berdoodle belongs to the Mixed Breed Dogs group. Mixed Breed Dogs are not purebred dogs.

Collie versus Saint Berdoodle: Comparison Table

The table below compares the Collie to the Saint Berdoodle based on different important factors such as Price, Health, Kid-friendliness, etc.

When a dog breed scores higher for a factor than the other dog breed, the box of the breed that scores higher is shaded green and the box of the breed that scores lower is shaded red. When there is no difference between the breeds for a particular factor then the box is shaded gray for both pets. Also, when the factor is not important in picking a pet, or when the factor cannot be compared between two pets, the box for the factor is shaded gray for both pets

Most of the factors in the table for each dog breed are ranked on a scale of 1 to 5. “1” means “worst”, and “5” means “best”.

However, some factors such as “Price”, “Average Lifespan”, etc. cannot be on a scale of 1 to 5, so they are not on a scale of 1 to 5 in the comparison table.

Later in this article, we will further explain each factor as it applies to the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle

FactorCollieSaint Berdoodle
Does NOT Drool5/55/5
Tendency NOT to Wander5/53/5
Life Span10 to 14 years8 to 12 years
Tolerates Being Alone2/52/5
Easy To Groom2/54/5
Calmness/ Low Vigor4/53/5
Height22 to 26 inches all at the shoulder15 to 30 inches
Adapts Well To Apartment Living3/52/5
Tolerates Hot Weather3/53/5
General Health3/54/5
Potential NOT to Gain Weight3/53/5
Does NOT chew on things3/53/5
NOT Rambunctious3/53/5
Minimal Exercise Needs3/53/5
Good For Novice Owners4/55/5
Tolerates Cold Weather4/54/5
Dog Friendly4/55/5
Friendly Toward Strangers4/54/5
Easy To Train4/54/5
Intelligence4/54/5
Low Prey Drive2/53/5
Does NOT Bark or Howl2/53/5
Potential For Playfulness4/53/5
Easygoing1/53/5
Affectionate With Family5/55/5
Kid-Friendly5/55/5
Does NOT Shed1/53/5
Weight50 to 70 pounds40 to 180 pounds
Average Lifespan12.0 years10.0 years
Average Price$1480$1680
Price Range$1000 – $1800$1000 – $2100
Common Health Problems and Recommended Health Tests
  • Clear By Parentage
  • Dermatomyositis
  • Multiple Drug Sensitivity
  • Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA) DNA Test
  • No Data
    *Data from AKC.org (The American Kennel Club),dogtime.com, OFA.org (The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals), petcalculator.com, wikipedia.org, ATTS.org (The American Temperament Test Society)

    Next, we added the scores of the factors that can be added together for the Collie in the table (that is, `Ease of Grooming` score + `General Health` score + `Calmness` score + …etc) and we compared it to the corresponding total score for the Saint Berdoodle. We call these total scores the Better-Pet Scores, as we mentioned earlier. We called this score the Better-Pet score because the better dog breed will have a higher score. This is because the pet will the higher score will have minimal needs and be easier to have as a pet.

    The Better-Pet score for the Collie is 83 out of 125 while the Better-Pet score for the Saint Berdoodle is 89 out of 125.

    Despite the higher Better-Pet score of the Saint Berdoodle, we still believe that the Collie is a better pet than the Saint Berdoodle.

    This is because Collies are much cuter but you cannot put a score on cuteness. If you could put a score on cuteness, then the Collie will come out on top.

    Also, we are biased in favor of the Collie :-). We are for the Collie. So get a Collie!

    The Similarities Between the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle

    The Collie and the Saint Berdoodle are very similar in certain aspects. Below is the list of where the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle are most similar:

  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle do not have the tendency to drool.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle do not like to be left alone.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle do the things they do with very low vigor. They are not forceful.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle are good for new dog owners.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle can tolerate cold weather.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle get along well with other dogs.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle are very friendly towards strangers.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle are very easy to train.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle are highly intelligent.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle have a high prey drive. They do not get along well with other pets.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle are very playful.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.
  • Both the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.
  • Size Comparison of the Collie versus Saint Berdoodle

    Now, let us discuss the difference in size between the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle.

    The Collie weighs 50 to 70 pounds when fully grown. The Collie is 22 to 26 inches all at the shoulder when fully grown.

    On the other hand, the Saint Berdoodle weighs 40 to 180 pounds when fully grown. The Saint Berdoodle is 15 to 30 inches when fully grown.

    Size of Collie versus Size of Saint Berdoodle

    Lifespan of Collie versus Saint Berdoodle

    The lifespan of the Collie is between 10 to 14 years. The average lifespan of the Collie is 12.0 years.

    The lifespan of the Saint Berdoodle is between 8 to 12 years. The average lifespan of the Saint Berdoodle is 10.0 years.

    The Collie live longer than the Saint Berdoodle.

    Price of Collie versus Price of Saint Berdoodle

    The average price of the Collie puppy is $1480. The price of the Collie typically ranges from $1000 – $1800. However, the price of a Collie can be as low as $300 and as high as $15000. We obtained this price information by reviewing the prices of 356 Collie puppies listed for sale from various sources.

    The average price of the Saint Berdoodle puppy is $1680. The price of the Saint Berdoodle typically ranges from $1000 – $2100. However, the price of the Saint Berdoodle can be as low as $300 and as high as $4000. We obtained this price information by collecting and reviewing the prices of 217 Saint Berdoodle puppies listed for sale from various sources.

    The Saint Berdoodle is more expensive than the Collie.

    Collie Saint Berdoodle
    Average Price $1480 $1680
    Price Range $1000 to $1800 $1000 to $2100

    The charts below show the price distribution for the Collie and Saint Berdoodle. For different price points, the charts show how many Collie puppies or how many Saint Berdoodle puppies are listed for sale at those price points.

    A breakdown of the prices of Collies. The typical price range is shaded Green.

    A breakdown of the prices of Collies. The typical price range is shaded Green.

    A breakdown of the prices of Saint Berdoodles

    A breakdown of the prices of Saint Berdoodles

    Note that a lot of factors determine how much you can expect to pay for the Collie puppy or the Saint Berdoodle puppy. This includes if health screening tests have been performed on the puppy, if the puppy is from a famous pedigree, the US State where the puppy is bred, etc.

    Nevertheless, when looking to buy a puppy, look at buying a puppy only from well-established breeders that breed puppies primarily for the love of dogs, and secondarily for profit. Do not buy a puppy from a puppy mill. Puppy mills mass-produce puppies in bad living conditions for maximum profit.

    You may also consider adopting a dog instead of buying a dog.

    Check out our list of best Collie breeders here

    Tolerates Being Alone: Collie versus Saint Berdoodle

    Collies do not like to be left alone.

    Saint Berdoodles do not like to be left alone.

    Do Collies shed more than Saint Berdoodles?

    Collies shed. They are not recommended for people with dog allergies.

    Saint Berdoodles shed moderately.

    Which is Easier to Groom, the Collie or the Saint Berdoodle?

    Collies require a lot of grooming and they are not very easy to groom.

    Saint Berdoodles are very easy to groom.

    Which Dog Breed is more Dog-Friendly, the Collie or the Saint Berdoodle?

    Collies get along very well with other dogs.

    Saint Berdoodles get along very well with other dogs.

    Are Collies good family dogs? What about Saint Berdoodles?

    Collies are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    Saint Berdoodles are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    Is the Collie Easier to Train than the Saint Berdoodle?

    Collies are very easy to train.

    Saint Berdoodles are very easy to train.

    Which one drools more, the Collie or the Saint Berdoodle

    Collies do have a very low tendency to drool.

    Saint Berdoodles do have a very low tendency to drool.

    How Kid-friendly are Collies and Saint Berdoodles?

    Collies get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.

    Saint Berdoodles get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.

    Does the Collie Have a Higher Prey Drive than the Saint Berdoodle?

    Collies have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.

    Saint Berdoodles have a moderate prey drive. They can sometimes chase after smaller animals and pets.

    Do Collies Bark and Howl? What about Saint Berdoodles?

    Collies are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.

    Saint Berdoodles bark and howl, but not very much.

    Can Collies Tolerate Cold Weather? And can Saint Berdoodles Tolerate Cold Weather?

    Collies can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Saint Berdoodles can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Wanderlust Potential: Collie vs. Saint Berdoodle

    Collies do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them.

    Saint Berdoodles have a moderate tendency to wander. This means that they sometimes get distracted by other animals or objects.

    Can Collies Tolerate Hot Weather? Can Saint Berdoodles Tolerate Hot Weather?

    Collies can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.

    Saint Berdoodles can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.

    Is the Collie Better for Apartment Owners than the Saint Berdoodle?

    Collies adapt moderately well to apartment living.

    Saint Berdoodles do not adapt well to apartment living.

    Which is Better for New Dog Owners, the Collie or the Saint Berdoodle?

    Collies are very good for new dog owners.

    Saint Berdoodles are very good for new dog owners.

    Collie Versus Other Dog Breeds

    You may also be interested in how the Collie compares to other breeds aside from the Saint Berdoodle. So, see below the links to the comparison of the Collie to other breeds:

    Collie versus Rhodesian Ridgeback     Collie versus Vizsla     Collie versus Irish Water Spaniel     Collie versus Puli     Collie versus Manchester Terrier     Collie versus Tibetan Terrier     Collie versus Norwegian Buhund     Collie versus Pug     Collie versus Finnish Spitz     Collie versus Clumber Spaniel     Collie versus Shetland Sheepdog     Collie versus Akita     Collie versus Puggle     Collie versus Cockalier     Collie versus Bulldog     Collie versus Kai Ken     Collie versus American Pit Bull Terrier     Collie versus Catahoula Bulldog     Collie versus Sealyham Terrier     

    Conclusion: Collie versus Saint Berdoodle. Which One is a Better Pet?

    In summary, there is nothing like a better dog breed or a worse dog breed. The important question to ask is which dog breed better matches your interests and lifestyle. We hope our discussion above will help you in deciding which dog breed between the Collie and the Saint Berdoodle better suits you and your family.